How to add more food to the diet correctly

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Tania –

Hello,
Thank you for your amazing information. My dog has transitioned well to the diet and most of her yeast problems have cleared up. She is 25 kg and I feed her 500g a day, meat/bone/organ + veg (80:20 ratio). She has recently started to make the most strange stomach churning noises on a morning and I can only presume she needs more food. I was feeding her 600g but she became too stocky. If I was to add extra meat say in her evening meal to get her through the night. Should I also add more veg? I am sure a good quality grain would help but I can't feed that due to her yeast problems. May I also ask about her nose. When I first started her on the diet she got a really healthy wet nose, but now it is often more dry, do you know if this is a lack of anything in the diet please?
Many thanks for your help.
Kind regards
Tania

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nicole

Re: How to add more food to the diet correctly

You are so smart to hold the grains. Perhaps feeding her earlier in the morning or before the morning meal a raw meaty bone with sinew/meat on it? I like to give mine a meaty bone first thing and then I do three small feedings through out the day. At her weight you could go up to 747gm through the day. This would be on the higher side of 2-3% of ideal adult body weight. What meat do you feed her? Is there perhaps not enough fat in it? It sounds like you're doing a great job and maybe if you feel she's hungry additional treats may be the answer. Veggies aren't going to add too much in the calorie area to tide her over to a next meal. I am not sure about the nose. Are her stools firm or too hard that may indicate she's slightly dehydrated? Are you keeping the house warmer during the winter months and she's a bit drier? I'd say if the gums are pink, moist and she looks healthy with semi-soft stools she's doing ok. Perhaps if you are really concerned be sure to place out water readily and she'll drink as she feels thirsty.

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Have a great day.
Nicole Tyrrell

Raw Dog Think Like a Coyote

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Hello,
Thank you for your amazing information. My dog has transitioned well to the diet and most of her yeast problems have cleared up. She is 25 kg and I feed her 500g a day, meat/bone/organ + veg (80:20 ratio). She has recently started to make the most strange stomach churning noises on a morning and I can only presume she needs more food. I was feeding her 600g but she became too stocky. If I was to add extra meat say in her evening meal to get her through the night. Should I also add more veg? I am sure a good quality grain would help but I can't feed that due to her yeast problems. May I also ask about her nose. When I first started her on the diet she got a really healthy wet nose, but now it is often more dry, do you know if this is a lack of anything in the diet please?
Many thanks for your help.
Kind regards
Tania

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Re: How to add more food to the diet correctly

Hi Nicole,
Thank you for your advice.Her body shape and weight are very good it's just that from about 6am in the morning her tummy is grumbling like mad. I feed her different meats lamb, beef, rabbit, sardines, egg (chicken and turkey but stopped because they made the yeast problem worse), she gets duck necks and marrowbones. Would extra fat in her diet stop the hunger or put on weight? Her stools are very good, I think you are right about the central heating being a cause for her dry nose. Just to be clear, if I up the amount of food I give her, do I need to keep the same meat veg ratio or can I just give her more meat? One final question please. My dog never had bad breath on the kibble but now she does eating raw, I read that the raw food diet gives them fresher breath, is this a myth do you think? Many thanks for all your help.
Have a lovely day
Tania

nicole

Re: How to add more food to the diet correctly

In regards to the ratio if you talk to any BARF feeder they'll tell you a different answer. I keep my 'dog food' ration 70 meat, 10 calcium, which I give chicken drumsticks (I don't count the extra meat) 10 organ meat, 10 fruits veggies. Are you grounding the veggies in a food processor as they lack the enzyme to digest the cell wall of the vegetable? Extra fat might make her gain weight but maybe a small amount would curb the hunger. How old is she? I'm really surprised about the breath. Could it be a bad tooth? It's very odd. Maybe there is a holistic vet in your area or a vet that supports Raw feeding. It really seems like you're doing everything correctly feeding her 2-3% of her adult body weight. The breath is very odd though. I can't answer that. I know the raw meaty bone is like flossing and brushing so perhaps daily bones for recreational use will help that. But you may really want to consider the teeth and get a check up with vet. Good luck.

Nicole

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On Feb 11, 2017, at 11:26 AM, Tania [via Ask your BARF Question Here] <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Nicole,
Thank you for your advice.Her body shape and weight are very good it's just that from about 6am in the morning her tummy is grumbling like mad. I feed her different meats lamb, beef, rabbit, sardines, egg (chicken and turkey but stopped because they made the yeast problem worse), she gets duck necks and marrowbones. Would extra fat in her diet stop the hunger or put on weight? Her stools are very good, I think you are right about the central heating being a cause for her dry nose. Just to be clear, if I up the amount of food I give her, do I need to keep the same meat veg ratio or can I just give her more meat? One final question please. My dog never had bad breath on the kibble but now she does eating raw, I read that the raw food diet gives them fresher breath, is this a myth do you think? Many thanks for all your help.
Have a lovely day
Tania

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Re: How to add more food to the diet correctly

Thank you again for your help. Poppy is seven. I purée the vegetables and she has recently had her annual check up, her teeth were fine. Maybe she is a bit dehydrated. I gave her more meat last night and so far no noisy tummy, so fingers crossed. I used to train her on raw carrots and I think that is why her breath was so fresh, had to stop them because of the yeast overgrowth. Hopefully I can introduce them again one day. Oh dear as we speak the tummy is off again. The only other thing I can think of is I am giving her a good quality probiotic for the yeast overgrowth, it could be that? A final question please. What vitamins do you give your dog. They don't sell any dog vits in the UK so I have followed Dr Karen Beckers Vit/min mix in her book, but I don't know if they are all that necessary.
Many thanks for your support.
Tania

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